Pig or Public Servant? If a child is acting disrespectful, maybe Alec Baldwin can straighten the child out.On Monday, Basinger's representative denied that Kim leaked the voice mail in which Baldwin threatened to straighten his daughter out. (Hmm who else would have had access to the voice mail.)
Basinger also called her ex-husband to "finally address his unstable and irrational behavior." (Once again an example of PAS by publically pointing out his flaws.)
"Everybody is always asking why this custody battle has been going on for so many years and now they have the answer," says Basinger. "The issue is ... about his ongoing aggressive behavior. Kim's sincerest wish is for him to finally address his unstable and irrational behavior." "Until then, Kim will continue to protect and safeguard her child's well-being as any parent would." (Kim's spokesperson needs to study PAS. By publically blaming Baldwin, she again provides evidence of her true intent to portray Baldwin as the bad guy.)
The big loser in this one is the poor innocent daughter!
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Blonde Bombshell said:
Hey look. Kim speaks the truth. Baldwin is a pig and Kim is just trying to protect and insulate her child from a bad dad. Let's face it, men just don't get it. A child belongs in the presence of his or her mom because we always place our child
first in our priorities. Kim is just doing what more moms need to do, protect their kids from the negative influence of abusive men.
Shell
Bomber:
I think we understand your views on this dysfunctional "family," but since I don't know them personally, and doubt any else here does, who knows what is going on with them? (Other than a nasty divorce)
Maybe I should spend more time reading People magazine and watching Access Hollywood, etc. to improve my knowledge of this situation.
Pubmeister Legal Man,
Thanks for the photo, Basinger wins on looks anyway, at least in my opinion!
Iron Mike said:
Kim does look fine. But it goes to show you, a pretty face doesn't mean a pretty heart. I just watched Baysinger on HBO in Final Analysis with Richard Gere. From that movie I conclude that she is either a great actress or a legitimately mean woman.
Iron Mike
Well, actually Ron, the antics of both Baldwin and Baysinger are documented in Pleadings and transcripts in their 6 year custody battle. While Lawyers and Judges may not personally know the litigants, we do gain insight and knowledge from the court record. Ultimately, the Appellate court makes its decision on such record and does not conduct a de nova hearing.
Barbra said:
Barbra said:
Even though I am a woman, I have no respect for woman who try to remove fathers from the lives of their children. Even if a woman's life runs smoother without the ex, it is the child who is cheated of experiencing the love of his or her father.
Even a bad dad is better than no dad.
For those of you not divorced, read "Throw Away Dads" and you can better appreciate the problem.
Barbra
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Jim
I have gone through a nasty divorce myself; however, I truly put my children first. Whatever I felt about my ex, I kept to myself and reassured my children that their dad loves them. They are told to respect and honor him as they should any adult. Women need to set a good example, not only to their ex, but any adult. Obviously each woman must have loved her ex and saw something wonderful at some time, and now, just because they have changed their minds, they try to change their child's mind too. Allow an innocent child to love his/her dad and teach them to respect each person so that they can grow up and respect all people. If you criticize their father; you are criticizing half of the child. Truly put your child first and NEVER say anything negative about a child's parent in their presence. They will grow up and see the truth all by theirself. BE A ROLE MODEL!!!
The last post (unsigned) gets the award for the best post of the day so far. Obviously a woman with both moxie and savy. Next time give us a first name or nick name so we can reward your insite with an "atta boy or girl."
Again great first post!
Blonde Bombshell:
I feel so alone against the world. LOL. Sure, any one can say that parents are equal, but they are not. Men can't give birth to children for a reason. In most cases, children would not grow up nearly as heathy (physical or mental) without a mom as a primary care giver.
Come on guys, can you think of a single mammal where the male raises
the young? No, I didn't think so.
Species would not survive but for female mammals.
Baldwin, like most men, need to be constantly supervised around children so that they don't do or say something stupid around the kids.
Shell
Viper, you sound like an attorney who is really impressed with himself. Maybe you are also a fan of Baldwin, not sure what point you tried to make in your post other than legal mumbo jumbo to impress us all..........my point is that I don't worship or even care about these dysfunctional hollywood people.
I also thought the ROLE MODEL post was good. It puts things in perspective and shows how immature Basinger and Baldwin are.
Jim, you sound like you need to go debate Shell on women's issues!
Good night.
Ron,
I assumed from your previous posts that you were a lawyer. After your post stating:
"but since I don't know them personally, and doubt any else here does, who knows what is going on with them?"
I thought I would explain to you that our legal system and court system almost never have personal knowledge of the litigants. Instead, the system relies upon the objective evidence.
While this may not be perceived as important to you or anyone else who is not divorced, it is an extremely important societal issue. It inspired the million man march on Washington D.C a few years ago.
Alec Baldwin's bellowing, was no worse that most parents who have been frustrated by their teen. and yes she is a teen.
Her MOTHER? ,HOWEVER, should have keep this whole thing in the family to have released it to the media, how unfeeling towards her daughter, how embarrassing for not only Alec Baldwin, but also for her daughter and her self.
Ann
Blonde Bombshell said:
To say that what Baldwin said to his daughter was "normal frustration" is ridiculous to anyone who lives outside of the celebrity world. Celebrities like Baldwin should not be allowed to procreate.
Is that where you think I stand Ron?
Blonde Bombshell said:
To say that what Baldwin said to his daughter was "normal frustration" is ridiculous to anyone who lives outside of the celebrity world. Celebrities like Baldwin should not be allowed to procreate.
Is that where you think I stand Ron?
I am with the annnoymous poster who talks of role models. I would take it a step further. I think Alex Baldwin is just like any other parent. He said what he said because he was hurt and upset that his daughter doesn't seem to care about him unless he is giving her what she wants. His daughter needs to learn respect. Respect is what is lacking in most kids of today. They have no respect for their parents and only call if they need something.
Maybe the language he used was wrong, but sometimes when we are pushed hard enough we use words that hurt. It was completely natural for him to rant and rave because sometimes thats the only way to get through to kids.
I don't think he did anything wrong. You have to admit it got her attention. Being away from your kids is hard enough and it wouldn't have hurt his daughter to pick up the phone once in a while to call her dad and say that she loves and misses him. Alex has feelings too.
Genny
Blonde Bombshell,
Not sure where you stand on all of this, other than not being a fan of Mr. "leaving for Canada" Baldwin, which marks a time when WE AGREE. Isn't that something?
Enough of this, on to the next stories.....
Not so fast. I am a kid. I feel like I am always being used by my parents as a messenger. Please divorced moms and dads, leave us kids out of the fight.
Brenda
Brenda, you are right. Parents have no right to use you as a messenger. Politely tell both parents that you love them; however, you are not going to deliver messages. If they have something to say to the other parent, say it directly and leave you out of it.
Wish my mom looked like Kim Baysinger
LOS ANGELES (April 27) -- Alec Baldwin apologized to his daughter on television Friday for calling her a "thoughtless little pig."
Appearing on "The View" Baldwin said he was ready to give up acting after nearly 30 years.
Baldwin, embroiled in a bitter, six-year custody dispute with his ex-wife, Kim Basinger, said he wanted more time to lobby for reforms in divorce, parental visitation and custody laws.
"I would like to devote myself to the cause of parental alienation," Baldwin said.
Television therapist Dr. Phil McGraw revealed that Baldwin had called him for advice and that the two had a "intense conversation" about the actor's daughter and his former spouse.
McGraw, also "reached out privately" to Basinger.
Baldwin was wrong. Period. He was abusive to his daughter. He may well be a victim of PAS - still doesn't give him the right to abuse his child - or anyone else - the way he did. His rage against his ex-wife was applied to his daughter. His words were brutal, and damn near unforgivable.
Basinger's decision to release the tape (presumably, it was her, or the daughter) was reprehnsible. Her primary concern should be her child's well-being - not revenge. Shame, shame.
To the poster who wrote about respect - absolutely, it's crucial in any relationship. Perhaps if Baldwin had respect for his daughter, she would have respect for him. What goes around, comes around - treat people with respect, and (more often then not) they return it. Or they don't. Then you choose how to respond - sinking to their level, or maintaining your own honor and dignity.
I've raised 4 kids - the youngest is 18 - and I have never, ever spoken to them like that. Teens don't need abuse - they need guidance - unconditional love and natural consequences.
I hope Ireland has loving, responsible people in her life, to show her how adults should behave. Her parents have failed her miserably.
Collency,
Finally a woman with some sense on here. If it were up to me, most Fathers post divorce would be seen and not heard. The reason is that when they open up their mouth either something stupid or something abusive usually spills out.
Shell
Ron, the kiddie remission is over, so I am back to posting. I shudder to think that we agree on something. Yes, Baldwin is an idiot who does not impress me. But neither do the majority of dad's out there that don't participate properly in the raising of their children. Most men would be better served if they learned to keep their yaps shut and leave the post divorce child parenting to mom's.
Shell
Shell
California Surfer Dude:
Shell, you know why Cannibals don't eat divorced women?
Because they are all bitter!
Have a good day....
Surfer dude
Shell, thanks for your vote of support. I don't have any personal experience with divorce - but someone very close to me was married to a woman who pretty much checked out of the motherhood gig when their baby was 9 months old. It took her a few more months to leave the marriage.
I've seen the 'single-dad, sole custodial parent' scene up close and personal - If you could see what I've seen, I think you'd cut a break for the dads. Sure, some are scum - but so are some moms.
Poor Ireland got zapped with a double-dose of lousy parents.
Colleency, not all men are dirt bag dads. But I have found very few men who have common sense when it comes to raising children. I think someone needs to print a book or guideline for these men. Maybe that way they will think before they open their traps!
men are just as good of parents as women.
thanks for bringing parental alienation to the mainstream, legal pub.
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